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  • #3252
    DarkRain
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    This discussion about coffee as a gout cure is now closed. Please see my coffee and gout page. If you still have questions, please start a new topic here.


    Hi All

    I'm just wondering if coffee do work for you?

    It 100% worked for me. Everytime I feel some ache in my toes, I drink some coffee and it goes away almost immediately. Somehow it seems the acid is either neutralised by the coffee or it binds with the coffee and get flushed out of the system.

    I'm not a usual coffee drinker, almost mostly tea now. But before I was an occasionally coffee drinker and never had gout. Now I only drink coffee when I feel its coming. I drink lots of water too when I drink coffee.

    I never tried the gout medicine before as I've read somewhere there are some serious side effects so I'm not sure what is the interaction between the medicine and coffee, if any.

    I've not had gout for almost a year now on this “method”, touch wood. The black bean drink did not work for me at all.

    Please share your experience.

    Cheers.

    #8476
    vegetarianGuy
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    Dude I doubt coffee fixes it. Come back in 10 years and tell me if it really is fixed.

    #8480
    DarkRain
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    Mate

    Don't be so condescending. I'm writing in response to the following:

    Coffee and Gout

    Coffee And Gout ? Great Gouty Arthritis Drinks

    [Edit: Other obsolete references to coffee as a gout cure removed]

    Many people drink lots of coffee but forgot about the water. All I'm saying is for me, the specific formula of 1 cup of strong instant powdered coffee (2-3 teaspoons) plus lots of water to flush the system after the coffee works for me everytime.

    By the way when I mean lots of water is 1.5 to 2 litres a day (H20 only, not including other fluids). Too much water may cause loss of electrolytes and result in water poisoning.

    You are welcome to share your experience.

    #8483
    hansinnm
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    DarkRain said:

    Post edited 10:49 am – May 1, 2010 by DarkRain


    You are welcome to share your experience.


    Thanks, DarkRain, for your time and effort to post the URL's of the comments regarding coffee.

    I have consumed ONE cup of coffee in the morning (strong, along the line of espresso) for more than 40 years and I have had gout for >25 years. Until recently, (~7 months ago) I only had attacks about once, sometimes twice a year. And I am not on Allopurinol because of allergy to it.

    I don't know if it had a positive influence on my gout or not, however, I do not believe that it had any negative influence either.

    #8497
    zip2play
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    My jury is out on coffee.

    I KNOW caffeine is  xanthine,  a purine, and present in large quantities in coffee. It is specifically TRImethylxanthine. Both DImethylxanthines: theobromine and theophylline, have occasionally been damned as causing gout but caffeine (which breaks down to both of the DIMX's) gets a free ride???

    So maybe caffeine is unique in being the single xanthine-purine that is GOOD for us, or maybe the coffee industry is big enough to write commission its own studies.

    (I once saw an elaborate breakdown of caffeine metabolites and there at the bottom stood uric acid…somehow that chart has disappeared from the web.)

    I, a sample of one, am a heavy coffee drinker…addicted to the stuff. Maybe, or maybe not, that is the reason I  am also a heavy allopurinol user, addicted to the stuff.Cool

    I just do not know.

    #8509
    DarkRain
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    Thank you all for sharing. These are all very interesting. There is definitely a lot of conflicting views on coffee out there on the internet. When it comes to caffine, coffee is somehow unique compared to tea and cola.

    In my post I forgot to mention that I also add a lot of milk in my coffee (more like coffee milk than white coffee) – half water, half milk to form a cup.

    Milk as an alkaline helps the acid so it might be a combination of coffee, milk and lots of water to helps me prevent the gout from kicking in.

    Next time you get the feeling maybe you could try to see if it has the same effect on you?

    Also I've come to the conclusion that whichever side you have gout on seems to be determined by which kidney is weaker than the other in processing uric acid. Left leg, left kidney, right leg, right kidney. Any thoughts on this?

    #8510
    trev
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    DarkRain said:

    Also I've come to the conclusion that whichever side you have gout on seems to be determined by which kidney is weaker than the other in processing uric acid. Left leg, left kidney, right leg, right kidney. Any thoughts on this?


    This is true for me- I have some scarring on left kidney and most attacks seem that side.[say 3:1]

    Bad ankle, main and small joint on big toe -and only that side a small toe alone- which seemed odd in itself, at the time.

    Also, elsewhere is posted a note about minor injuries calling in gouty feelings but these lately have been the same either side- on the right, a months old double nail loss whack which still rumbles on.

    I feel this is reflecting two extra nodes to gout on top of the main attack event:

    One , the predisposition to sides- and the other a general sensitivity to marked injury, which doesn't ever threaten to get 'really' gouty, whatever the side involved.

    #8521
    zip2play
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    Also I've come to the conclusion that whichever side you have gout on seems to be determined by which kidney is weaker than the other in processing uric acid. Left leg, left kidney, right leg, right kidney. Any thoughts on this?

    Sorry, I don't like that theory at all. Wink

    Here's why:

    The heart pumps blood to the body (not the lung ciirculation) through ONE pipe, the aorta. It descends and has two side branches while passing into the abdomen, the right and left renal arteries. So both kidneys are getting the SAME blood. Then the kidneys process waste from the portion of the blood supply that was routed to them and expel the cleaned blood through the renal veins (one for each kidney) and each of these two veins enters the Vena Cava, the largest vein in the body, where it is mixed completely and pumped directly to the heart. Then out through the lungs and back to the heart where the circulation does another cycle.

    Thus that kidney circulation is just from total blood pool to total blood pool and both sides of the body get exactly the same well mixed stuff.

    In fact one kidney could be dead or gone and the body barely notices.

    #8531
    trev
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    Yes Zip – your response clarifies the position.  My exp is probably just chance!

    In fact , thinking about your points, any kidney damage would put BP up on that 'feed in'- so any imbalance in circulation going down to the legs [if any difference] would favour that side to resist gout, due to better pressure, other things being equal -like arterial/veinous restrictions at certain sites.

    Given the complexity of the blood regulatory system though, nothing would surprise me ! Cool

    #15183

    This discussion about coffee as a gout cure is now closed. Please see my coffee and gout page. If you still have questions, please start a new topic here.

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