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    ihategout
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    hey guys im new here and i must say that this site is great for gout sufferers.. anyway im torn between what kind of bread or cereals to eat or even if its safe to eat them… while reading through this forum some guys said that its ok to eat whole grain cereals or corn flakes but when searching in the web i found out that gout sufferers should stay away with whole grain products… so i need help  i would really want to know… thanks

    #8413 Reply
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    Hi IHG-

    I've just posted on a similar thread [on Oats] and it brought some facts back to me. I was waiting to find some notes on this, otherwise.

    The broad thing to remember is that all grains, apart from Millett, are acid forming in the body.

    If you want /like them ,as I do, for dietary balanc-e then keep to the wholegrain version as at least you get maximum dietary benefit versus gout risk!

    I've found spelt flour much better than wheat for stomach comfort anyway- and this has been a staple for me for some years now.

    I make sure I get as much alkaline foods as possible to counteract the negative impact of what grains I do eat- and this seems to work.

    This means you will have to get more apricots, dates, almonds, figs , fruit, [ripe] bananas & etc. into your diet, as a conscious effort -apart from watching amounts of grain intake.

    Balance ,as always, is the key. [esp. pH wise]  There's a lot if info online to help, as well as here.

    #8415 Reply
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    My take on bread:

    If it tastes good, I eat it. If not, I don't.

    Bread is basically a high carbohydrate source of calories with little protein and little fat…so best to treat it exactly as such.

    Impact on gout is probably very slight no matter what your choice.

    #8418 Reply
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    @ trev

    how about corn flakes cereals or corn?? according to the food list its alkaline… can a gouty eat this

    #8419 Reply
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    trev
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    Hey- I'm not the diet guru here :)  -just sharing exp.

    I eat cornflakes ( with yoghurt and fruit, no sugar)  and sweetcorn occasionally too.

    I've mislaid my data sheets on all this stuff to check details -but it's not a science so much as a balancing act!

    IMO there are worse triggers for gout than most individual foods [shelled seafood excepted]-  like Beer/alcohol, dehydration, meds. -and so on. You need to take all these into consideration.

    Everyone has a different profile- but some common traits.

    #8423 Reply
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    I can only go by my personal experience and I will say that I don't know what the hell to believe when it comes to Gout friendly foods. Ok some of the main common bad ones to avoid are clear but beyond that it all seems like snail oil to me.  Embarassed

    #8424 Reply
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    trev said:

    Hey- I'm not the diet guru here :)  -just sharing exp.

    I eat cornflakes ( with yoghurt and fruit, no sugar)


    Most corn flakes including the plain ones are stuffed with sugar already Wink

    #8426 Reply
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    Yeah – I know- I meant naughty extra sugar like the good old days..  Wink

    #8433 Reply
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    vegetarianGuy said:

    I can only go by my personal experience and I will say that I don't know what the hell to believe when it comes to Gout friendly foods. Ok some of the main common bad ones to avoid are clear but beyond that it all seems like snail oil to me.  Embarassed


    I agree, there's only one food that is absolutely necessary: allopurinol.CoolLaugh

    #8436 Reply
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    As you well know AlloP, however efective, is not a food but PURE chemical….

    but then, you're biased Zip, as a PURE chemist [once, HeHe] ! Wink

    #8469 Reply
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    I agree with zip2play. One essential food is Allopurinol. Chemical or no chemical, does not matter. Actually, it is better than diet control alone. If you take Allop, you can eat all good stuff like whole grains, green vegetables like spinach and much more. So, all that good stuff for the body to get the necessary nutrition and vitamins. In other words – One Key for ALL the goodness – Like the Lord of the Rings…Allop is Lord of all good things to eat, at-least for those who can take Allop without problems…if we miss on lot of good food by not taking Allop, that I think is more harmful than caring about chemical or not chemical…

    #8477 Reply
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    I am firmly in the AlloP camp too even though I like Trev Smile

    Listen to all those Gout lectures that got posted on the other thread. Food/Diet ain't gonna fix anyone's  Gout. Also purine rich vegetables are perfectly fine.

    Good diet + AlloP is mother of lord of the rings LOL

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