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12:44 pm November 29, 2009
| chacho
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I have been reading yourcomments on the uric acid test meters and was wondering if anybody has used the “kernel” test meter that is advertised on the goutcare website.
It looks good and is a very good price but can not find any recommendations.
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3:26 am December 1, 2009
| GoutPal
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Other than the information on the manufacturers website, I have never heard of this.
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Unless replying to specific points in this topic, please start a new topic. See new topic link above, or gout forum guidelines. Current gout status in my profile.
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7:30 am December 1, 2009
| zip2play
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What is the consensus of board users as to the meter most often purchased? (I don't have one nso I cannot begin the litany .)
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10:26 am December 1, 2009
| Utubelite
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I purchased UASure and have been using it without much complaints so far…
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6:09 am January 15, 2010
| rdavisiii
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I just started using the Kernel meter. I have not had it checked against a lab test yet but will in about a months time, I am just getting over an attack. It was simple to use and the readings are consistent when tests are taken back to back. I have even had my wife and friends test and the meter does supply very different readings. Once I use it for abit longer I wil post my findings and if it was accurate or how close to actual lab tests. I hope it is accurate because I already see patterns that are fairly consistent and can see this being a big help in determining if what I am doing is actually helping the condition. I do wonder why they are not sold in the US, still easy enough to get but it seems to me that if the meters are fairly accurate they would be a game changer for someone that is closely monitoring their condition. I am still trying to manage things without meds and when I am consistent with exercise and diet I never have flare ups but I do not know where my levels are at. It is when I slack off like I did over the holidays that I get bit, being able to see where things are at on a consistent basis will be huge for me. BTW most docs I have seen are almost useless to the management process, so getting lab work done on a regular basis is hard.
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7:40 am January 15, 2010
| trev
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I found this link- which isn't much more. No prices- but shows range of functions,looks useful at first sight but accuracy not stated.
They insist on business and phone details so are probably only interested in bulk exports.
http://66.102.9.132/search?q=c…..&gl=uk
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8:01 am January 15, 2010
| zip2play
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rdavisiiiiii,
I check on that Kernel meter and it strikes me as quite a bit cheaper than it's competitors although additional strips seem pricey.
I found $80 + $8 shipping for the kit and $24/25 strips…so a buck a test.
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10:01 am January 15, 2010
| trev
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Can you post that link Zip?
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5:59 pm January 15, 2010
| zip2play
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Try this link outside the UK and EU:
http://www.uricacidmeter.com/#…..4535968510
For UK and EU, the page is a little more complex
http://www.goutcare.co.uk/#/or…..4536250106
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1:19 am January 16, 2010
| trev
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Thanks Zip- very helpful. I've used Goutcare before -and the 3 in1 meter looks useful.
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2:56 pm January 16, 2010
| Juliana
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Received UAsure monitor yesterday so not familiar with it as yet. My hubby, the sufferer here, has a bout of gout in his knee & ankle same side at the moment.
His reading was 6.7 in evening. A fasting one this morning was 5.9 & then later in afternoon today was 9.8!! As this seemed a huge jump, he retested 5 minutes later and it read 8.5 (same finger)! A bit disappointing. Can anyone shed any light on this? He is not taking medication (yet!?).
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5:21 pm January 16, 2010
| zip2play
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Juliana,
Personally I think that these testers are very sensitive to the amount of blood covering the hole in the strip. THere's covering, COVERING, and COVERING, and these differences might not be readily aparent to the human eye but still be significant.
Perhaps as the routine gets standardized you'll see more trustworthy results. Obviously the uric acid load cannot be changed from, 9.8 to 8.5 in 5 minutes. (Not knowing whether I could trust the results probably has me avoiding spending the money.)
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8:11 pm January 16, 2010
| Utubelite
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I do not know how the SUA levels are maintained in the body and if the sample in itself has to do something with the results, in addition to the sample quantity. I tried it with lab with tests 15 minutes apart and got differential of 0.5 in the results.
In my case, I have not got any unexpected results from the SUA meter and I have compared the results with the lab at-least 5 times. All the times, the results were comparable with difference of less than 0.5. So, I guess, the meter numbers are reasonable.
For me, whatever numbers I get, if they are around 4, I am happy, Even if I add 15% differential, they are still around 4.5. At-least I know my numbers are not in the wrong range. A reading of 4 by SUA meter would not transform into 6 or 7 in labs.
Lab test costs around $20( when getting it outside doctors request), 5 test mean $100. In that much amount, I can do more than 50 tests with SUA meters without the hessels of going to lab and waiting for the results to be posted online next day.
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2:35 am January 17, 2010
| trev
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I've ordered the 3 in 1 device from Zips link above- and it was despatched within hours.
I will only be doing monthly tests starting with next months blood test due anyway -for comparison, which I will report on.
I expect to get a bit of practice first using the tips mentioned on here as the test procedure looks very similar. I know some variations are likely.
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9:04 am January 17, 2010
| zip2play
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trev,
My take is that these are 3 separate meters, uric acid, glucose, and cholesterol (Kewl!) rather than 3 in 1. I hope you ordered some extra teststrips so you don't have to pay for shippping again later. But you cannot buy too many ahead because they have a short shelf life.
I know some people are happy with the cholesterol testers although they give only the gross measurement. Once you've had the lab test though you pretty much know where you stand with HDL so total cholesterol is a useful measure.
Glucose? Pretty much useless unless one is diabetic or pre-diabetic. Or if one KNOWS a diabetic…a nice gift?
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9:52 am January 17, 2010
| rdavisiii
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So I have had my Kernel meter now for several days and like a kid with a new toy. I have been testing morning and evening to get a feel of how consistent readings are. I do like that the meter beeps to indicate when it has a proper sample so if you are not getting enough on there it will just sit silent. I am going to scale back testing once that Christmas feeling is gone but I am starting to see how my diet seems to effect the readings. So far I am happy with it although I may see the doc sooner then later regarding my levels. I had an attack back on December 11th and have had good days as well as what I would consider additional attacks(3) since then. The lucky joint is still sore but not killing me. Since the 13th it has produced these results:
| Date |
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| 1/13/2010 6PM |
8.4 |
| 1/14/2010 8AM |
10.8 |
| 1/15/2010 5AM |
8.4 |
| 1/15/2010 7PM |
8.6 |
| 1/16/2010 830AM |
12 |
| 1/16/2010 6PM |
9.6 |
| 1/17/2010 830AM |
9.4
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12:08 pm January 17, 2010
| Juliana
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Thanks zip2play – will try with a “COVERING”. It does suck up the blood quickly & “beeps” almost instantly to indicate it is finished. Hub has a blood test tomorrow so will be useful comparison – had to cancel last week- hopefully be able to get into car tomorrow! Has rheumatology appt this week too (first time re gout).
Utubelite, do you mind me asking, is your monitor the same as ours, ie from Arctic Medical? If so then perhaps we will get the hang of it eventually.
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1:43 pm January 17, 2010
| trev
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@ these are 3 separate meters, uric acid, glucose, and cholesterol :
goutcare.co.uk/#/me…..4536245548 shows combined- one reason why I went for it as I have had high UA,Chol. & borderline blood sugar.
I'm hoping to see them down after diet/meds changes- but it will probably be a long haul.
The meter will be invaluable- a pressy for moi ! :)
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10:32 pm January 17, 2010
| Utubelite
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Juliana said:
Utubelite, do you mind me asking, is your monitor the same as ours, ie from Arctic Medical? If so then perhaps we will get the hang of it eventually.
Yes, I have the same monitor from Arctic. I did not face any problems in getting the consistent results. I am easily able to see the difference between covering, COVERING and COVERING. As the meter beeps when enough blood sample has been delivered to test area, it reduces the chances of COVERING. I am almost able to gauge if I am going to get a wrong result based on the blood covering on the strip. But I have already used 3 boxes of strips now, that is almost 75…So, I guess it gives me more handle on the monitor.
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10:23 am January 18, 2010
| Juliana
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Hi Utubelite,
Many thanks for your repy & info. I wonder if we have a faulty monitor – we are both feeling like pin-cushions now! We have had various readings, following the instructions, ie immediately removing finger with blood after the “bleep” & also leaving it a second or two longer to allow more blood to be sucked in, beyond “the bleep”. Mine, which should be normal but was 7.1 removing finger after the bleep & then 5.5, 5.9 leaving it longer- I'll go for the last 2 readings. Thought that had sussed it & using same technique on hub still gave inconsistent results ie. 8.7 and then 9.4 using same bleeding finger seconds apart! We are both a tad discouraged with this.
He did go for his blood test today at the hospital phlebotomy so will be interesting to compare as he used monitor immediately before and after the appointment.
Thanks to you all for sharing your lives & offering your personal experiences in this way & also a big thank you to goutpal for making this great resource available – for all those hours & effort you must spend – a big THANKYOU. Good health to you all.
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